08-18-2020 10:58 AM
Today, we’re announcing some important updates to how people log into Oculus devices, while still keeping their VR profile. Starting in October 2020:
Everyone using an Oculus device for the first time will need to log in with a Facebook account.
If you’re an existing user and already have an Oculus account, you’ll have the option to log in with Facebook and merge your Oculus and Facebook accounts.
If you’re an existing user and choose not to merge your accounts, you can continue using your Oculus account for two years.
After January 1, 2023, we will end support for Oculus accounts. If you choose not to merge your accounts at that time, you can continue using your device, but full functionality will require a Facebook account. We will take steps to allow you to keep using content you have purchased, though we expect some games and apps may no longer work. This could be because they include features that require a Facebook account or because a developer has chosen to no longer support the app or game you purchased. All future unreleased Oculus devices will require a Facebook account, even if you already have an Oculus account.
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08-20-2020 10:58 AM
Forestshaker said:Well, I guess we'll just have to wait and see what actually happens, when a company makes this kind of decision it's always going to get at least some backlash, the severity of which can make them either change their mind to conform to their community (like leaving facebook as an option and not a requirement) or just plowing forward and having it be a requirement despite it losing them probably up to if not more than 1/3 of it's userbase.
08-20-2020 11:07 AM
Zenbane said:
Unfortunately that is not the case. These are standard ToS that are 100% legally binding here in the US as defined by Contract Law guidelines, in addition to regulations around Intellectual Property.
08-20-2020 11:10 AM
edmg said:
Maybe you should ask Patreon about that.
08-20-2020 11:41 AM
08-20-2020 12:12 PM
08-20-2020 12:25 PM
Zenbane said:
edmg said:
It's highly unlikely that most of these contracts are legally binding.Unfortunately that is not the case. These are standard ToS that are 100% legally binding here in the US as defined by Contract Law guidelines, in addition to regulations around Intellectual Property.
Facebook owns all rights to their products, not the consumer. The ToS merely explains the full extent of those rights.
So in essence, you are saying that it is highly unlikely that a company has legal rights to their own intellectual property. Surely you can see how that is not the case. Your neighbor can't just come and take your house or car, right?Facebook is completely free to change their product/services as they see fit within the confines of the law. The change, in and of itself, is not a violation of the law. Any more than you changing the color of paint on your vehicle, or re-decorating a room in your home.
08-20-2020 12:53 PM
Mradr said:
Zenbane said:
edmg said:
It's highly unlikely that most of these contracts are legally binding.Unfortunately that is not the case. These are standard ToS that are 100% legally binding here in the US as defined by Contract Law guidelines, in addition to regulations around Intellectual Property.
Facebook owns all rights to their products, not the consumer. The ToS merely explains the full extent of those rights.
So in essence, you are saying that it is highly unlikely that a company has legal rights to their own intellectual property. Surely you can see how that is not the case. Your neighbor can't just come and take your house or car, right?Facebook is completely free to change their product/services as they see fit within the confines of the law. The change, in and of itself, is not a violation of the law. Any more than you changing the color of paint on your vehicle, or re-decorating a room in your home.
Not 100% true - just because the ToS could say they own your dog by using this service
08-20-2020 12:55 PM
Shadowmask72 said:
I'm not reading through 250 posts on this, but I will repeat myself. All Facebook/Oculus has to do is announce half dome, next gen VR headset and all you scaly molluscs will come crawling back like the limpets you are and won't give a hoot about having to have a FB account.
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08-20-2020 12:58 PM
Zenbane said:
Mradr said:
Zenbane said:
edmg said:
It's highly unlikely that most of these contracts are legally binding.Unfortunately that is not the case. These are standard ToS that are 100% legally binding here in the US as defined by Contract Law guidelines, in addition to regulations around Intellectual Property.
Facebook owns all rights to their products, not the consumer. The ToS merely explains the full extent of those rights.
So in essence, you are saying that it is highly unlikely that a company has legal rights to their own intellectual property. Surely you can see how that is not the case. Your neighbor can't just come and take your house or car, right?Facebook is completely free to change their product/services as they see fit within the confines of the law. The change, in and of itself, is not a violation of the law. Any more than you changing the color of paint on your vehicle, or re-decorating a room in your home.
Not 100% true - just because the ToS could say they own your dog by using this service
The ToS says nothing about dog owning. And your comment takes us back to the reading problems you keep imposing. I'll quote the important part, but history dictates it won't help this conversation much,"Facebook is completely free to change their product/services as they see fit within the confines of the law."Pay attention to the part in bold. Because your reply introduced a situation where FB would be operating outside the confines of the law.
So if you read my post comprehensively and completely, with full understanding, then everything I said is 100% true.
08-20-2020 01:08 PM