07-06-2020 07:47 AM
07-18-2020 06:26 PM
PhoenixSpyder said:
As a PC enthusiast myself, I just can't justify an Index (even though I can afford it) when Gen2 is so close (from whom ever). I surely can wait longer (been waiting for an eternity in technological terms), but the G2 will most likely be my next HMD until Gen2. Unfortunately, my wait may be longer due to living in Canada. I'm assuming I'll actually get the next top tier Ti before this is released in Canada or is available and not out of stock...by the sounds of it....
07-19-2020 10:43 AM
maxpare79 said:
PhoenixSpyder said:
As a PC enthusiast myself, I just can't justify an Index (even though I can afford it) when Gen2 is so close (from whom ever). I surely can wait longer (been waiting for an eternity in technological terms), but the G2 will most likely be my next HMD until Gen2. Unfortunately, my wait may be longer due to living in Canada. I'm assuming I'll actually get the next top tier Ti before this is released in Canada or is available and not out of stock...by the sounds of it....
I am in Canada and ordered one through wantboard.ca and you can get a full refund if you cancel before it ships. It ended up costing me 1053$ all included. Not too bad, because I am pretty sure that the base price will be around 900ish plus tax with it comes through the official channels (G1 is on sale at 800$ here). The G2 is not on their website but you can contact them through messenger and they will order one for you.
And I was a bit worry about the warranty since I buy it in the US. But Voodooimax the HP rep on reddit told me it's not an issue, HP.ca will honor my warranty.
The G1 arrived in Canada 7 months later then the US
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07-19-2020 02:15 PM
maxpare79 said:
PhoenixSpyder said:
As a PC enthusiast myself, I just can't justify an Index (even though I can afford it) when Gen2 is so close (from whom ever). I surely can wait longer (been waiting for an eternity in technological terms), but the G2 will most likely be my next HMD until Gen2. Unfortunately, my wait may be longer due to living in Canada. I'm assuming I'll actually get the next top tier Ti before this is released in Canada or is available and not out of stock...by the sounds of it....
I am in Canada and ordered one through wantboard.ca and you can get a full refund if you cancel before it ships. It ended up costing me 1053$ all included. Not too bad, because I am pretty sure that the base price will be around 900ish plus tax with it comes through the official channels (G1 is on sale at 800$ here). The G2 is not on their website but you can contact them through messenger and they will order one for you.
And I was a bit worry about the warranty since I buy it in the US. But Voodooimax the HP rep on reddit told me it's not an issue, HP.ca will honor my warranty.
The G1 arrived in Canada 7 months later then the US
07-19-2020 10:42 PM
kojack said:
OmegaM4N said:
or they just stick a camera on the controllers
Yep, Antilatency did that, they add cameras to everything to make them all inside out.Technically, Touch and WMR controllers are outside in tracking, since they don't track themselves, they are tracked by an external sensor (the headset).Having cameras on the controllers would mean minimal body occlusion issues.Of course they would still need constellation tracking to occasionally sync the coordinate systems. Or have fixed references in the environment (fiducial markers, etc) that are easy and reliable to recognise.
07-20-2020 01:25 AM
Mradr said:
kojack said:
OmegaM4N said:
or they just stick a camera on the controllers
Yep, Antilatency did that, they add cameras to everything to make them all inside out.Technically, Touch and WMR controllers are outside in tracking, since they don't track themselves, they are tracked by an external sensor (the headset).Having cameras on the controllers would mean minimal body occlusion issues.Of course they would still need constellation tracking to occasionally sync the coordinate systems. Or have fixed references in the environment (fiducial markers, etc) that are easy and reliable to recognise.
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07-20-2020 07:22 AM
snowdog said:
kevinw729 said:
Splinters up the "jacksy" must be painful @Mradr 🙂
But seriously, its not really a matter of "...if Oculus is going to play the waiting game..." its a matter more of how long this will last before a definitive position. Now with Lenovo moving on to other pastures with their PC VR aspirations. The wait will be on a Half-Dome4 inspired design coming out before 2023. We have been here before with the wait for the update to the CV1 that went from 2016 to 2019 - and then be far less than was expected. Placing those that waited in a incredibly difficult position - many of which who were regular posters at this forum have moved on to support HTC or HP... or even Pimax!
Hopefully with the next Oculus headset we will see an amazing leap forward in certain features, and we all hope that the lessons learned from Rift-S and Quest, as well as whatever is felt applicable from Half-Domes' considerable development will manifest itself - but I think we know that those stating 2022 for a PC VR headset, do not have the best batting average based on past record!
Actually my batting average is better than most. I originally said that the CV2 was going to be released in 2019, then changed my mind to 2020. Now that Oculus have released the Rift S in 2019 it points to a three year lifespan for their products. So my 2022 prediction for the Rift 2 holds more water.
And those predicting that Oculus will ONLY be releasing standalone headsets from now on aren't thinking too clearly, because if they do that then it will mean either dropping the strongest brand in the business, the Rift product line or dropping what has now become a strong brand, the Quest product line.
And only producing a standalone/hybrid headset will also mean that the new Quest/Rift headset (depending on which strong brand they decide to throw in the bin) won't have the new features that they've been showcasing in every Oculus Connect for the last few years due to the need to have mobile phone hardware and the cooling associated with that hardware inside the headset. And the fact that the Half Dome prototype has ALL of the features of Abrash's ideal VR headet only reinforces my theory that Oculus will continue to release standalone and PC VR headsets.
The Quest will be the both of best worlds - a standalone headset at a cheap price that will allow owners to also play PC VR titles and the Rift 2 will be the leading PC VR headset in new technology available at (probably) a £100 more expensive price point.
Now NSS COULD mean that there'll be no need for eye tracking and foveated rendering, and mean that there'll be no need for the Half Dome prototype, but that will ALSO mean that the Rift 2 won't be able to have the varifocal feature which will greatly increase presence.
It's more likely that they will continue to release separate standalone headsets and PC VR headsets for the reasons I've given.
07-20-2020 08:16 AM
vannagirl said:
Pretty hard to resist this HMD tbh, i am coming from a CV1 which i still really love, it just always works and for some reason i think i have become use to screen door i really do not notice anymore.
Oculus Rift CV1, Valve Index & PSVR2, Asus Strix OC RTX™ 3090, i9-10900K (5.3Ghz), 32GB 3200MHz, 16TB SSD
"Ask not what VR can do for you, but what you can do for VR"
07-20-2020 09:37 AM
kojack said:
OmegaM4N said:
or they just stick a camera on the controllers
Yep, Antilatency did that, they add cameras to everything to make them all inside out.Technically, Touch and WMR controllers are outside in tracking, since they don't track themselves, they are tracked by an external sensor (the headset).Having cameras on the controllers would mean minimal body occlusion issues.Of course they would still need constellation tracking to occasionally sync the coordinate systems. Or have fixed references in the environment (fiducial markers, etc) that are easy and reliable to recognise.
OmegaM4N said:
or.........and hear me out here before you shut me down, some sort of external tracking device that would track the HMD and controllers within a roomscae type enviromant. 😛
I think you might be on to something there.
07-20-2020 09:40 AM
07-20-2020 10:00 AM
Shadowmask72 said:
This is just great all you people coming over to the HP dark-side. Once Zenbane turns then it's game-over Oculus.
>:)
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"Ask not what VR can do for you, but what you can do for VR"