04-12-2019 02:53 PM
04-16-2019 04:42 AM
DaftnDirect said:
If Oculus were to post their accounts, sales figures, projections and confirm future hardware plans in this thread, that would help a lot to resolve this discussion.
04-16-2019 04:43 AM
Mradr said:
Zenbane said:Wow, there was so much wrong in that entire wall of text that I can't figure out how to avoid writing a 10,000 word essay in response. That was some massive amounts of misinformation about VR and Technology with a healthy dose of misrepresentation and a side-dish of downplaying innovation. Bravo, sir!I think you're a nice guy, Mradr, but I nominate that as: The worst post about VR and Technology of 2019.
LOL, but for real though:) Don't you remember all the VR headsets even around the DK1 and DK2 days that came out of the wood works around that time? If VR was hard to do - in terms of just getting it to work - then we wouldn't have seen cardboard VR. The idea of how VR works is simple enough even my little cousin can make it work in terms of throwing two off slightly view points to create a 3D image. I mean wasn't the point of PL goal was that VR could be made better than it was before just using off the shelf hardware for the DK1 release?
Clam down Zen sweetie, I was talking to Daftn to understand his point - not create a new 10 page argument:)
04-16-2019 04:45 AM
Zenbane said:Okay but on the for reals though...You literally argued like this:Since man invented The Wheel back in 3,500 B.C. the fact is that Cars, Trucks, Airplanes, Construction Vehicles, and even Boats have not really introduced anything new in terms of innovation... because they all rely on The Wheel which was already build centuries ago.I think you should just reset and pretend that never happened. Or go back and edit your post and we can all pretend we didn't read it! lol
04-16-2019 04:50 AM
kevinw729 said:
DaftnDirect said:
If Oculus were to post their accounts, sales figures, projections and confirm future hardware plans in this thread, that would help a lot to resolve this discussion.
Totally agree - though they would also need to come clean that this is a serious pivot (course correction) from the previous course and layout the implications for the existing user-base regarding this change (content cross-over, future support, etc.,) But sadly, as we know the communication skills towards the public are "limited" internally, and there is still an issue of restructuring going on since the last changes. Lets hope that with the release of Quest a new course can be defined and charted.
04-16-2019 04:54 AM
LZoltowski said:
Anyway, I think this topic has been discussed ad nauseum ... I vote to close the thread.
04-16-2019 04:59 AM
Zenbane said:
bigmike20vt said:
whic is why i "suggested" it and said what i believe... there was no, or not meant to be any statement that i was making as a nailed on fact.
There most certainly was a statement that was you made that represented your words as a fact. When you said this, "to be completely honest."You like to use both strong phrases and non-committal phrases in the same sentence as a tactical way to give you a scapegoat any moment someone counter-argues your point. But you should know that trick doesn't work on me!and again, i was being misquoted i was not saying he has no clue about
the rift S that was a strawman argument that i never made..You are not being misquoted and there is no strawman. How can you say this, "I was not saying he has no clue" when you literally said this, "the truth is you have no clue." You do realize that the rest of us are capable of reading and understanding English right? You said this to snowdog word-for-word: the truth is you have no clue.
And you're now telling me this word-for-word: i was not saying he has no clue
And now I will say this word-for-word: bigmike20vt literally has no clue what it means to tell someone that they have no clue.I also notice in both instances you completely warp any semblance of "truth" because you use phrases like, "to be completely honest" and "the truth is." My advice: Stop invoking what you think is the Truth and instead just work on being consistent. Also, stop telling people that they have no clue and then arguing moments later that you never claimed they had no clue! lol
04-16-2019 05:00 AM
Zenbane said:
LZoltowski said:
Anyway, I think this topic has been discussed ad nauseum ... I vote to close the thread.Seconded. The thread is mostly "attack Oculus" vs "defend Oculus." And it's already attracting some of the older debates as well. Nothing new or insightful is really being discussed. I think the whole thing jumped the shark around Page 4.
04-16-2019 05:08 AM
bigmike20vt said:He has no clue about the dome like CV2 coming in 2022..... (neither does any of us outside of oculus) i think looking at it it is very clear i am not talking about riftS when i said that.
bigmike20vt said:I am not trying to give a get out clause
Okay. Post a pic pls!
That's not how "honesty" works. You can't say, "to be honest, there's no such thing as gravity." That's not honesty. I think you mean to say, "in my opinion."
04-16-2019 05:13 AM
bigmike20vt said:Christ on a bike!!!
04-16-2019 05:14 AM