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Nvidia RTX 3050, 3060 (Ti), 3070 (Ti), 3080 (Ti) & 3090 (Ti) HAVE ARRIVED (INFO AND BENCHMARKS)

RuneSR2
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It seems like we'll get:

The new Ampere-based GeForce RTX 3000 series cards will reportedly offer more VRAM on all cards, so we could see: 

NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3070 - 12GB 
NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3080 - 12GB 
NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3080 Ti - 16GB.


Maybe reduced power consumption due to 7nm. And maybe the best - if it's true:

NVIDIA is reportedly set to offer its next-gen GeForce RTX 3000 serieds at cheaper prices than the current-gen GeForce RTX 2000 series, which would be interesting. NVIDIA faced considerable backlash with the pricing on its GeForce RTX 2000 series, even though they still sold like hotcakes a price reduction is always welcome.


Read more: https://www.tweaktown.com/news/68455/nvidia-geforce-rtx-3080-ti-more-vram-way-faster-cheaper/index.h...

Expected - maybe - in the first half of 2020:

https://wccftech.com/nvidia-next-generation-ampere-7nm-graphics-cards-landing-1h-2020/ 

 

Some shots of RTX 3090s:

 

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You should be able to set them to 3600Mhz easily. When you get your rig done, first set them up with the rated XMP, then research what the rated voltage should be for 3600Mhz and manually set the speed in BIOS (while the XMP is still selected) to 3600Mhz with the matching voltage for that speed, save and reboot. In order to run at 3600Mhz, the voltage will need to be higher for stability. It'll be free performance and should be fine as long as you don't have to go over 1.5v for stability (you shouldn't need to). The reason for keeping the XMP setting still selected is for maintaining the CAS setting. Cheers!!!

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RuneSR2
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Kinda itching to get this mainboard - but it's clearly overkill, and SLI is totally dead at least to me - but it sure looks purdy.. 😍

 

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Fun thing, I did just order the normal Strix 3090 (officially the shop hasn't got the OC model), but the shop sent me the more expensive OC version (costs about $150 more over here and has built-in 1890 Mhz boost, normal is 1695 MHz for Founder's or 1725 Mhz for the normal Strix) - but I guess the boxes can be hard to tell apart

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"Spot the Difference"

 

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Nice, the only difference is the PCIe 4.0 is on the standard box while the OC is on the more expensive version. Though OC is nice to have, you probably won't need to OC it for a while. Already plenty of power for current stuff.

 

I'm still running my EVGA RTX3090 FTW3 at stock speed for now, no plans on OC'ing for quite some time.

 

Cheers!!!

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Strange that Asus did not make it more easy to tell the boxes apart - in case of limited cognitive capacities among storeroom workers, I guess mistakes can easily happen, lol. Might be better if blue box = standard, red box = OC...  🙂

 

My thoughts too about the OC - I just want to keep the noise to a minimum, so OC for a few percent more performance has little interest. Of course it's nice to be guaranteed a certain OC potential, but you never know which gpus win the silicon lottery anyway. With the 3090, it seems you can easily add 100+ watts and still only get a few percent more performance, might not really be worth much:

 

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Note the green line is double oc'ed  😂

 

Releasing all the power by enabling the full 480w brings about 300 fps (+6%):

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The Strix should be quite silent when activating the silent bios - and here the giant cooling solution may be important. With the silent bios it seems Strix will not go beyond 75 degrees celcius (about 67 degrees with the louder performance bios). TechPowerUp has a great and long review of the Strix OC 3090. They measured the Strix OC 3090 to just 34 dBA, although the king of air-cooling still was MSI Suprim X 3090 with 31 dBA. My current MSI GTX 1080 was measured at just 31 dBA also - and is the most silent air-cooled GTX 1080 ever tested by TechPowerUp, but I guess 34 dBA are ok too. 

Using the performance bios, the Strix OC 3090 was measured at 42 dBA, which is about twice as loud as 34 dBA -because it's a logarithmic scale where 100% increase in perceived loudness is equal to an increase of 6-8 dBA.

 

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That's great. Good you got a bonus with the OC version. It's definitely nice to not here any fans when doing gaming or other stuff.

 

My 3090 is very quiet also. I don't even here the fans ever...probably because I'm running stock and open case for extra cooling since the 3090 can throw a lot of heat when under heavy load.

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RuneSR2
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I'm getting real tired of the many wanna-be tech-experts on YouTube posting tons of videos without disclosing the exact settings they used for the hardware. It often seems like the work of imbeciles lucky to have access to some hardware - and not realizing they may provide wrong and incorrect results.

 

For example - is 10900K really faster than 11900K? You can find several YouTube vids showing that 11900K is fastest. With new Z590 mainboards, the 11900K activates PCIe 4.0, while the 10900K only supports PCIe 3.0 - and there are several other advantages to the 11900K using the new Z590 mainboards. Even had to discuss that with the seller of my new rig - who wanted to sell me the 11900K instead of 10900K, and kept babbling about all the new features.  

 

But let's cut through the nonsense - I fully trust TechPowerUp (showing same trends like Anandtech btw) - and in order to compare cpu speeds we need to remove the gpu bottleneck as much as possible, so we need low res - like 720p to really see cpu potentials - TechPowerUp measured average results based on 10 games:

 

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10900K using an old Z490 mainboard with 3800 MHz ram was 7% faster than 11900K using a state-of-the-art Z590 mainboard with all bells and whistles and 3800 MHz ram (same latencies). Results obtained using a RTX 3080. 

 

Now to see any benefits of PCIe 4.0, we need to push the gpu - so let's get that 4K res running - this also shows why cpu doesn't really matter when you add a lot of super sampling in VR, lol:

 

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Here all the $$$ paid for a high-end cpu is basically wasted. A cheap cpu will provide similar performance in games - that's why I wasn't that keen on upgrading my trusty i7 7700K. Interestingly, even with PCIe 4.0 the 11900K could not defeat the 10900K with PCIe 3.0

 

Thus I went for the 10900K on a Z590, but Z590 mostly due to the Asus safe-slot. 

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I'm totally with you there concerning the 10900K. When it comes to 4k, as you already have seen...the CPU basically is neutral in performance differences between today's latest CPU varieties. That is the main reason I'm waiting till Meteor Lake to upgrade...my CPU still holds it own with everything...and will do so for the next couple of years.

 

You could technically still use your 7700k with your 3090 if you needed to but it would be somewhat of a bottle neck as games get more CPU intense. The sacrifice would be in min/max fps...but would still be playable with minor stutters with the most intense of games.

 

Like I mentioned a few posts back...PCIe4.0 presently is still to new to be of use, PCIe3.0 still has lots of life left in it. Once cards actually utilize PCIe 4.0 bandwidth the way its designed, we'll then see the beginning of the end of PCIe 3.0. Until then, there's no real need for PCIe 4.0 (figuratively speaking)...it's a nice future proof feature to have though...but is kind of a waste even on the latest mb's. By the time Nvidia releases their next card that utilizes PCIe 4.0 to the fullest extent, there will be a need to upgrade again...LOL!!! Intel is always changing their pin setups for their CPU's every 2 generations...forcing upgrades in the process.

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RuneSR2
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HP is right now doing commercials on Reddit for the Omen 30L - with a RTX 3090 - still it's a 5K rig on Amazon:

 

https://www.amazon.com/OMEN-Generation-i9-10850K-Processor-GT13-0092/dp/B08KYQFZ6K?th=1

 

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Note that HP also is using 10th gen cpus, not the new 11th gen (but Omen 30L could be an older build). My hardware Spider-Sense tells me it's a sign of the RTX 3090 becoming more available, when HP actively tries to sell such rigs - might also explain why I didn't have to wait long for the Asus Strix OC 3090. 

Might have been easier just to pay HP, but I like being able to cherry-pick every single component of my new rig, also so I don't end up with 2400 MHz system ram - or one single module 

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SC = Single channel (=one memory module), DC = dual channel (=two memory modules)

Source: https://www.hardwaretimes.com/single-channel-vs-dual-channel-ram-which-one-is-better/

 

Results with Ryzen 3900X and RTX 2080 Super. Dual channel 2400 MHz ram resulted in nearly twice the fps. For those thinking fast ram is unimportant - think again 😉 My new rig comes with PC3200 2 x 16GB modules, might try to force 3600 MHz... Also CAS latencies (memory timings) may be extremely important - PC3200 can be the winner here:

 

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In fact, low latency PC3200 more or less continuously won the battles - even against 3800 MHz here:

 

https://www.guru3d.com/articles-pages/amd-ryzen-ram-scaling-effect-in-games,7.html

 

I'm thinking that the optimal mem solution today would be dual channel PC3200 14-14-14-34, but of course better with PC3600 14-14-14-34, but I don't think the latter is available anywhere expect in my imagination, lol. 

 

So where can you get PC3200 CAS14? For example right here:

 

 

 

But it costs about twice the price of normal PC3200 CAS16 ram, and of course may not really be worth the price - then again, nothing seems worth the price these days anyway...

 

https://www.gskill.com/product/165/168/1536653655/F4-3200C14D-32GTZRTrident-Z-RGBDDR4-3200MHz-CL14-1...)

https://www.corsair.com/eu/en/Categories/Products/Memory/Extreme-Performance-Memory/dominator-torque...

 

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Takes many considerations to build a high-end rig these days... But not sure it was any different 20 years ago! 

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I agree with choosing your own parts to build, as your will be able to get the best of everything. This is what I always do when I build my systems.

 

Faster Ram does make a difference...but more so on AMD...and less so on Intel. AMD requires minimum PC3200Mhz for proper performance while Intel is more steady performance even with slower than PC3200Mhz...though if one puts faster ram in Intel the benefit is mostly worth it. Also, with Intel...faster ram will most likely see benefits on benchmarks, but only gaining a minimal fps in real world situations (10+fps or so depending on app).

 

Faster ram with low latency is very expensive and probably not worth the money spent for the extra performance. The money is better spent on other areas of a computer system that will benefit more...at least for Intel.

 

When I put my system together a few years ago I chose PC2666Mhz ram C16 latency, as for Intel at the time that was standard speed...and faster speed was much more expensive at the time. I ran it at that speed for some time, but then decided to OC it for a tad more speed. I managed to use the XMP setting for the ram while setting OC speed to 3000Mhz while still using C16 latency by upping the voltage to 1.35v...and all is fine since then. To OC and maintain a low latency is the most desired way. I gained some fps from the memory OC and still have a very stable system. I have contemplated getting 64gigs PC3200 C16 but will probably not for now with ram prices set to sky rocket, plus the money spent on this may not give much more than what i'm getting fps wise...although I would have more ram which would benefit my development...but wouldn't benefit with anything else...like gaming and such. I'll most likely wait till Meteor lake to upgrade my ram...by then it should have come back down to reality price wise...like it always seems to do.

 

Cheers!!!

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I got a full 10% extra fps in non-gpu-bottlenecked cpu benchmarks going from 2400 to 3200 Mhz (same timings) with my i7 7700K, but such real gains may easily be hidden by the gpu bottleneck, so for cpu benchmarks I really would like reviewers to use extremely low res like 640x480, lol. 

i7 7700K has been an amazing ride, never had anything but awesome performance. Right now my only focus is 144 fps, but not really sure my i7 7700K wouldn't be able to do that in Alyx.

I don't like building rigs that much, so I try to make builds lasting many years - and in that perspective an extra 10% cpu performance may not be bad - and C14 ram may bring more performance than cpu overclocking, depending on your luck in the silicon lottery. But yes, C14 can easily be way too expensive for the gains. 

I'm going for 2 x 16 GB Corsair Vengeance LPX C16 3200 Mhz for this build, might try my luck decreasing to C15 or C14 later - on a sunny day 🙂

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