04-15-2021 11:09 AM
04-16-2021 03:48 AM
"never needing a FB account to access online features" *cries
04-16-2021 04:01 AM - edited 04-16-2021 06:43 AM
04-16-2021 04:57 AM
I wonder what advice people here would have given Blockbusters and Netflix on their respective strategies. Probably a good thing they don't get their advice from the average forum Joe. Then again, maybe one of them did 😯
04-16-2021 05:20 AM
The slippery starts.
Got this email today, luckily it seems the subscription is just a mere add-on and not the core game.
04-16-2021 05:44 AM
Advice:
Blockbusters
If a company called Netflix comes along with a DVD-by-mail service.. Don't wait 5 years to do the same or that will be the beginning of the end of you !
Netflix
If Steve Carell ever pitches a show called Space Force... don't do it !
04-16-2021 06:13 AM
lol I've never watched Space Force... now I'm curious!
@PITTCANNA yeah I think that'll be the model especially for fitness apps. Same deal with web based fitness stuff, I've used Strava for years but haven't yet gone for the subscription, it has more metrics and route planning options... just not something I really need. They've never reduced the feature-set of the non-sub accounts.
04-16-2021 06:37 AM
04-16-2021 06:53 AM - edited 04-16-2021 06:54 AM
@DaftnDirect I used strava, zwift, rouvy, trainerroad, training peaks, the full gamut of fitness related apps. I have used the paid an unpaid portion of all those apps, when i was doing triathalon training and endurance cycling.
But yes they do shrink free features over time, you just don't notice, because over the course of 5 years you start seeing increases in pricing, and easy stuff that was once free gets moved into the paid.
Its all kind of ludicrous in the grand scheme of things, because all the costs add up.
If your a cycling nut, and want immersion - you pay premium
1000 dollar smart trainer / 3000 peloton bike
the smart trainers usually have phone apps but its the bare minimum (and really doesn't unlock the smart trainer)
peloton bike is a paper weight if you don't pay for the service
pay apps for smart trainer are never just outright witch is bull%$# to a huge degree
think of it this way I paid 30 for a pc version of overwatch, i don't have to pay per month to use it
for the most popular fitness app which is zwift you pay 15 a month 15 * 12 = 180 yearly
Is the app good? it isn't 180 a year good.
The second most popular is rouvy
144 a year is the going rate.
Its scummy practice period.
04-16-2021 07:17 AM
Thank you for your observation on the price and app comparison.
Nice to have a picture on the actual offering.
04-16-2021 07:34 AM
Yeah here's the ultimate take on subscription based services(games).
It doesn't benefit the early adopters (scummy companies start a lower price - your essentially pay to become a beta tester)
For example
zwift started at 10.00 a month, i was a member for 5 years so for 3 years i was paying 10 a month just to access the **bleep** game. 10 a month * 12 *3 = so i am invested 360 dollars at this point, a year and half ago it changed price to 15.00 a month, so a 50% increase. Did i get 50% more game? no i got the same game with marginally increasing content, (maps, cosmetics, workouts) its still the same game it was over 5 years ago.
For perspective contrast overwatch again
it added new maps for free
cosmetics for free
game types for free
in short the game is very different then when i first bought outright.
Games as a subscription are the worst thing if they start to death spiral.
So lets get bak to fitxr also known as boxvr
I have boxvr on my psvr, i liked it when it was a simpler game.
Now on the quest 1/ and quest 2, boxvr became fitxr and as soon as i saw the layout when it changed over. I knew it was matter of time before it went pay to play.
So its like this
fitxr legacy people still own the game and the dlc and in 90 days they can make a choice to be premium 9.99 a month(few extra features that are not worth it)
fitxr new people are screwed off the bat 7 day trial, 9.99 per month to play.
Its only a matter of time before they make legacy people pay server fees for multiplayer and "updates" or as i like to call bug fixes.