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Quest2 - Subscription for Apps Coming

kevinw729
Honored Visionary


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Warbloke
Superstar

"never needing a FB account to access online features"      *cries

"You can't believe everything you read on the Internet " :- Abraham Lincoln 

kevinw729
Honored Visionary

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https://vrawards.aixr.org/ "The Out-of-Home Immersive Entertainment Frontier: Expanding Interactive Boundaries in Leisure Facilities" https://www.amazon.co.uk/Out-Home-Immersive-Entertainment-Frontier/dp/1472426959

I wonder what advice people here would have given Blockbusters and Netflix on their respective strategies. Probably a good thing they don't get their advice from the average forum Joe. Then again, maybe one of them did 😯

The slippery starts.

Got this email today, luckily it seems the subscription is just a mere add-on and not the core game.

 

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Advice:
Blockbusters
If a company called Netflix comes along with a DVD-by-mail service.. Don't wait 5 years to do the same or that will be the beginning of the end of you !

 

Netflix

If  Steve Carell ever pitches a show called Space Force... don't do it !

"You can't believe everything you read on the Internet " :- Abraham Lincoln 

lol I've never watched Space Force... now I'm curious!

 

@PITTCANNA yeah I think that'll be the model especially for fitness apps. Same deal with web based fitness stuff, I've used Strava for years but haven't yet gone for the subscription, it has more metrics and route planning options... just not something I really need. They've never reduced the feature-set of the non-sub accounts.

kevinw729
Honored Visionary

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https://vrawards.aixr.org/ "The Out-of-Home Immersive Entertainment Frontier: Expanding Interactive Boundaries in Leisure Facilities" https://www.amazon.co.uk/Out-Home-Immersive-Entertainment-Frontier/dp/1472426959

@DaftnDirect I used strava, zwift, rouvy, trainerroad, training peaks, the full gamut of fitness related apps.  I have used the paid an unpaid portion of all those apps, when i was doing triathalon training and endurance cycling.

 

But yes they do shrink free features over time, you just don't notice, because over the course of 5 years you start seeing increases in pricing, and easy stuff that was once free gets moved into the paid.

 

Its all kind of ludicrous in the grand scheme of things, because all the costs add up.

If your a cycling nut, and want immersion - you pay premium 

1000 dollar smart trainer / 3000 peloton bike

the smart trainers usually have phone apps but its the bare minimum (and really doesn't unlock the smart trainer)

peloton bike is a paper weight if you don't pay for the service

 

pay apps for smart trainer are never just outright witch is bull%$# to a huge degree

 

think of it this way I paid 30 for a pc version of overwatch, i don't have to pay per month to use it

for the most popular fitness app which is zwift you pay 15 a month 15 * 12 = 180 yearly

Is the app good? it isn't 180 a year good.

The second most popular is rouvy

144 a year is the going rate.

 

Its scummy practice period.

Thank you for your observation on the price and app comparison.

Nice to have a picture on the actual offering.

https://vrawards.aixr.org/ "The Out-of-Home Immersive Entertainment Frontier: Expanding Interactive Boundaries in Leisure Facilities" https://www.amazon.co.uk/Out-Home-Immersive-Entertainment-Frontier/dp/1472426959

Yeah here's the ultimate take on subscription based services(games). 

 

It doesn't benefit the early adopters (scummy companies start a lower price - your essentially pay to become a beta tester) 

 

For example

zwift started at 10.00 a month, i was a member for 5 years so for 3 years i was paying 10 a month just to access the **bleep** game. 10 a month * 12 *3 = so i am invested 360 dollars at this point,  a year and half ago it changed price to 15.00 a month, so a 50% increase.  Did i get 50% more game? no i got the same game with marginally increasing content, (maps, cosmetics, workouts) its still the same game it was over 5 years ago.

 

For perspective contrast overwatch again

it added new maps for free

cosmetics for free

game types for free

 

in short the game is very different then when i first bought outright.

 

Games as a subscription are the worst thing if they start to death spiral.

 

So lets get bak to fitxr also known as boxvr

 

I have boxvr on my psvr, i liked it when it was a simpler game.

 

Now on the quest 1/ and quest 2, boxvr became fitxr and as soon as i saw the layout when it changed over.  I knew it was matter of time before it went pay to play.

 

So its like this

fitxr legacy people still own the game and the dlc and in 90 days they can make a choice to be premium 9.99 a month(few extra features that are not worth it)

 

fitxr new people are screwed off the bat 7 day trial, 9.99 per month to play.

 

Its only a matter of time before they make legacy people pay server fees for multiplayer and "updates" or as i like to call bug fixes.