03-22-2016 10:59 AM
03-23-2016 05:37 AM
"zork2001" wrote:
People that are happy without room scale have never tried room scale end of discussion. People that don’t like or see the point in VR have never tried a VR HMD end of discussion.
You literally have never heard anyone after using a Vive be like that was pointless, I think I would just rather have sat there and gone through that demo.
"Rigel80" wrote:
Imagine being in front of a huge boss, the boss is so huge that even moving your head left and right you see the same image, to feel the size of the boss you have to move your character to see it from different angles.
-With oculus rift the only way is to move your character with the analogic stick.
-With the HTC vive you can do 4-5 steps with your real feet.
This make a huge difference in the sense of scale that you feel because we all measure the dimensions and the distances comparing them to our body and the movement of our legs.
03-23-2016 05:40 AM
"zork2001" wrote:
People that are happy without room scale have never tried room scale end of discussion. People that don’t like or see the point in VR have never tried a VR HMD end of discussion.
You literally have never heard anyone after using a Vive be like that was pointless, I think I would just rather have sat there and gone through that demo.
03-23-2016 05:52 AM
03-23-2016 05:53 AM
"Percy1983" wrote:"Rigel80" wrote:
Imagine being in front of a huge boss, the boss is so huge that even moving your head left and right you see the same image, to feel the size of the boss you have to move your character to see it from different angles.
-With oculus rift the only way is to move your character with the analogic stick.
-With the HTC vive you can do 4-5 steps with your real feet.
This make a huge difference in the sense of scale that you feel because we all measure the dimensions and the distances comparing them to our body and the movement of our legs.
So can we agree this boss will look just as big without room scale?
I agree it would be nice to take a step back to see more etc, but what if I have seen enough and wish to run away?
Likewise in real life I can look at something and decide its size at any distance, call it a nice landmark I can see it and be amazed, taking a few steps in any direction doesn't usually change how amazing something is, come to think of it I do usually stay still when taking something in.
03-23-2016 06:12 AM
"CardinalStorm" wrote:
I think it would be wise if everyone here accepted that we're not living in a world full of clones, and that opinions and needs differ from one person to the next.
To categorically state that those who don't see the point in room scale and/or VR obviously haven't tried it, is a foolish remark. Some don't want to entertain room scale until wireless HMDs are available. My dad has never tried VR, but I guarantee, even after trying it, he'd not be in the least bit interested to try it again, let alone buy it.
If you want room scale, great, buy it and feel free to share with others why. Equally, if you don't want it, fine, don't buy it and feel free to share with others why.
But arguing over why your opinion is the right opinion - like it's fact and all other opinions are nonsense - is pretentious bollocks.
Be nice. 🙂
03-23-2016 06:17 AM
"DaftnDirect" wrote:"CardinalStorm" wrote:
I think it would be wise if everyone here accepted that we're not living in a world full of clones, and that opinions and needs differ from one person to the next.
To categorically state that those who don't see the point in room scale and/or VR obviously haven't tried it, is a foolish remark. Some don't want to entertain room scale until wireless HMDs are available. My dad has never tried VR, but I guarantee, even after trying it, he'd not be in the least bit interested to try it again, let alone buy it.
If you want room scale, great, buy it and feel free to share with others why. Equally, if you don't want it, fine, don't buy it and feel free to share with others why.
But arguing over why your opinion is the right opinion - like it's fact and all other opinions are nonsense - is pretentious bollocks.
Be nice. 🙂
To a degree I understand and agree with you but....
I feel sometimes that some people are treating VR as an extension to their existing gaming experience... and some people are treating it as a potential window to completely new experiences.
Now I agree that both of these views are valid and shouldn't be criticized... but the more people dismiss room-scale, the more likely it'll be dismissed by developers and the less likely we'll have those completely new experiences.
The other point as that a sitting experience is more likely to be a 180 degree experience, whereas room-scale is more likely to encompass a 360 experience by its very nature, it won't necessarily need room to move... it could be just standing.
These are the reasons I keep promoting it.. hopefully not in a pretentious or bollocks-talking way 🙂
03-23-2016 06:19 AM
"notsram" wrote:
I'd love to be able to at least try room scale, but my PC room/man cave is roughly 6 ft x 4ft and that's way too small for anything other than a stationary experience.
If/when I win the lottery or move, I'll be sampling room scale like a shot, but until then, much though I'd love it, it's not for me.
03-23-2016 06:20 AM
03-23-2016 06:27 AM
"vizionvr" wrote:"notsram" wrote:
I'd love to be able to at least try room scale, but my PC room/man cave is roughly 6 ft x 4ft and that's way too small for anything other than a stationary experience.
If/when I win the lottery or move, I'll be sampling room scale like a shot, but until then, much though I'd love it, it's not for me.
That's around 1.5 x 2 meters, the exact spec for minimum room scale that most devs are targetting. You'd be fine.
03-23-2016 06:31 AM
"notsram" wrote:
I have just about enough room in my man cave to turn around (if I move the chair out of the way!), so I'm all for a standing/360 degree experience 🙂