"jamacias" wrote:"Mradr" wrote:"jamacias" wrote:
Oh cool the good ole "beta" excuse. So basically they could've sent us a box with nothing in it because well, it's in beta. Or something like "the screen doesn't turn on," oh but it's in beta, you should've known this.
They're still obligated to send a working item, the lenses are not working, because they get scratched far too easily and eventually they'll be clouded with scratches. Or if you were unlucky enough there will be scratches in the main focal area of the lenses.
Just because it's a development kit doesn't excuse them from criticisms.
But they do work? You can see throw them and that means they work. The problem is that they degrade over time, but that doesn't mean they are not working.
So yes, its the going to be the same o story. Don't like it? Then don't buy it x.x how hard is that to understand?
Ok, your points are ridiculous. You completely glanced over the part where some are dead on arrival. Mine were, they were scratched in the middle so everything was blurry. This is a beta, so we're entitled to have opinions on it. This is the time they should use to take our opinions as developers into consideration to make the next version even better. The lenses are shit, and there is a problem with them as stated by cyber.
"If you don't like it don't buy it", oh slick off mate. I didn't know they'd come with defected lenses. I bought the DK1 and loved it and it didn't have defected lenses. So I preordered the DK2 not expecting lenses that came dead on arrival.
It's been a month since they've found out there's a problem and still they haven't released anything on it.
And read the post before yours, he brings up good points also, but of course you're going to tailor your "dont criticize, if you don't like it don't buy it" middle school argument.
"glenndebacker" wrote:"Semicidal" wrote:
Sound's to me like you don't know what a development kit is.
That argument is just plain fanboy drivel. When I bought my share of development kits that was always under the premise that specification could change and that the development kit could differ (positive or negative) regarding the consumer version.
Any experienced developer knows that. I have been a professional developer for more then 15 years, here are my credentials and I had my share of "development kits". Most of them still working year after date... .
But that doesn't elude the fact that suddenly development kits - that for some people are a lot of money, the living conditions are not for everyone the same - should come with defects that hampers development in the long run.
If the scratches renders the device unusable after a while that is plain unacceptable. Especially in a dev environment where you quickly iterate and have the device on and off - or do you write code with the oculus on ?- the ease of how it can get scratches is troublesome. Maybe people should not use the development kit then to develop stuff ?
It is a "development kit" and those things come - in my experience - mostly not with some kind of expiration date. So the whole " it is a development kit , so you should wait for the consumer version" argument is in my dev view plain idiotic. I'm not even convinced that a developer would say such a thing. I should be able to "develop" - you know some of use really use those things to develop thing - a month from here, a year from here, ... .
Hell I know developers that are content with the DK1 -power to them - and still use that as there development kit.
Yes you are right, some people clearly don't seem to know what a development kit is... .
Mradr coul'd you please let this thread alone for the people who really have a (physical) problem with their LENSES and switch to a thread where people have a problem with their EGO? 😉
Wow! Not 24 Hours of use and Swirly Scratches all over! wish i would of seen this post like 8 hours ago! Anyway, I did a fine job scratching up the "A" set of Lens, If anyone wants to trade a perfect "B" set for your unused "A" set Please let me Know! I'll even pay shipping! 😉
4) You talk like beta should be the final product... "I bough the beta! It should work bug free!" xD Sorry, but that's all I am hearing from your post...