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The Index thread (please keep to subject)

Techy111
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As per the title, please respect the users who post here and keep it on topic, any nonsense and......grrr
A PC with lots of gadgets inside and a thing to see in 3D that you put on your head.

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RuneSR2
Level 16

Fun thing - just saw these - although I'm sure I do not need them, they do look cool, love the colors 🙂

 

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40 bucks on Amazon:

 

https://www.amazon.com/Valve-Index-Controller-Grips-Ergonomic/dp/B08SFPLJ84/ref=sr_1_1?dchild=1&keyw...

    

Valve Index & Oculus Rift CV1, Asus Strix OC RTX™ 3090, i9-10900K (5.3Ghz), 32GB 3200MHz, 8TB
"Ask not what VR can do for you, but what you can do for VR"


@RuneSR2 wrote:

When you're ready to install Revive (if you have not done so), you may find that Knuckles are some kind of magic controllers - using Revive, Knuckles within a few seconds transform into Touch, and I (my brain) really do not notice the difference. It's because of the thumb sticks, and Knuckles 2 x A and B buttons perfectly match Touch A, B, X and Y buttons etc.

Knuckles can work similarly for Wands too, so surely Valve did the most extraordinary job of making Knuckles ready for the future, but also fully compatible with the past. 


I have not given Revive a try yet, I may at some point but not sure I will. 

Rift CV1| Rift S| Quest| Reverb G2| Index

RuneSR2
Level 16

Looks like the Norwegian Index dude dug up some more interesting stuff - but can't fint it on Steam - only on Viveport 😬 😄 

 

 

It's here - I think Tom should try it first 😉

 

https://www.viveport.com/63790c59-83b6-412a-93f8-ca9360eab84f

 

 

 

Valve Index & Oculus Rift CV1, Asus Strix OC RTX™ 3090, i9-10900K (5.3Ghz), 32GB 3200MHz, 8TB
"Ask not what VR can do for you, but what you can do for VR"

When you're ready, v. 2.1.1 is right here - you may indeed find that many Oculus games and apps work better Revived than with any real Oculus hmd you can get due to res + Hz + tracking + fov (and when having a RTX 3090):

 

https://github.com/LibreVR/Revive/releases

 

Maybe even that Lone Echo game could work without crashing when Revived, who knows... 😉 

Valve Index & Oculus Rift CV1, Asus Strix OC RTX™ 3090, i9-10900K (5.3Ghz), 32GB 3200MHz, 8TB
"Ask not what VR can do for you, but what you can do for VR"

RuneSR2
Level 16

More Index 2 speculations:

 

https://www.techradar.com/news/valve-index-2-rumors-predictions-and-what-we-want-from-the-vr-headset

 

Seems to be a trustworthy site, at least they got something right, lol:

 

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https://www.techradar.com/news/the-best-vr-headset

 

Quote: "There’s little doubt that the Valve Index is the next-generation VR headset people have been clamoring for: it has an ultra-crisp display that runs fairly well even with older GPUs, a wider field of view, a higher refresh rate and Valve’s 'knuckle' controllers, which can track the movement of every finger. That's why, at least right now, it's our best VR headset for 2021 and our best VR headset for PC owners."

Valve Index & Oculus Rift CV1, Asus Strix OC RTX™ 3090, i9-10900K (5.3Ghz), 32GB 3200MHz, 8TB
"Ask not what VR can do for you, but what you can do for VR"

Yeah I figure now that I have finally purchased an Index, Index 2 probably is coming soon lol.

Rift CV1| Rift S| Quest| Reverb G2| Index

Lol, again I wouldn't worry about it. Might worry about the Vive Pro 2 though 😄

Valve Index & Oculus Rift CV1, Asus Strix OC RTX™ 3090, i9-10900K (5.3Ghz), 32GB 3200MHz, 8TB
"Ask not what VR can do for you, but what you can do for VR"

OmegaM4N
Level 11

I think you are more than safe with the Index for the next few years, hell i am still using my CV1 today so i am really looking forward to getting my hands on one and all the improvments it brings, and i have no doubt it will last me as long as the CV1 has. ha


@OmegaM4N wrote:

I think you are more than safe with the Index for the next few years, hell i am still using my CV1 today so i am really looking forward to getting my hands on one and all the improvments it brings, and i have no doubt it will last me as long as the CV1 has. ha


Yeah as I mentioned early on this thing just reeks of quality. I have little doubt it will be in it for the long haul.

Back to Alyx now. Heck I thought when I got out of the building I was done with the Northern Star chapter, guess still got a little ways to go. 

Rift CV1| Rift S| Quest| Reverb G2| Index


@RuneSR2 wrote:

When you get used to move all your fingers in a game, it really feels awkward, kinda amputated, when you cant. Full finger tracking adds a lot to immersion - even if it doesn't let you pick up more stuff etc.


 

This is a misconception that is associated more with Gaming Enthusiasts, whereas VR Enthusiasts tend to realize that "hands" are in fact: immersion-breaking.

 

Immersion comes from the mind. VR experiences that rely on the human body are completely limiting VR's capabilities. Which is why Brain-To-Computer interfaces are going to be the true next-gen experience. We're already seen major breakthroughs in this area, and HTC has been developing this for VR for years.

 

Gaming Enthusiasts are still too focused on the limitations of the human body (hence the love for bulky controllers like Vive Wands and Index Knuckles). But VR's immersive factor is all about the brain, and expanding the power of the mind.

 

The more a piece of VR software focuses on the limitations of the human body, the farther away from VR's potential it becomes.


But again: Gaming Enthusiast vs VR Enthusiast.

 

This is why the Index is far from a 2nd Gen VR HMD. It's a "next gen gaming kit" at best.