11-18-2018 01:38 PM
11-28-2018 09:00 AM
OMAW3D said:I agree with what you say here, except it doesn't apply in this
situation. OP had a problem unknown in nature that could perhaps have
been fixed in 5 minutes with a little effort.
The OP openly admitted that they are going to purchase a Vive instead, which is just as expensive. But again, you just aren't paying attention. Nothing you say has any relevance to the current situation. You are arguing for the sake of arguing, and you are terrible at arguing.
I don't presume to know your situation, I just know that you keep making it seem like spending money is a bad thing. I am merely pointing out that spending money isn't a bad thing for everyone. It certainly isn't for me, as I own multiple machines. And it isn't for the OP, since they have no problem spending money on both a Rift and Vive. The only financial issues in this conversation stem from you.
And there it is: you spend money when it is demanded. But some of us can spend money even when it is not demanded. Some of us can spend money when it is merely desired. This appears to elude you.
More vague terminology that means nothing. A machine must power a Rift effectively in order to get the full experience, mere compatibility of a peripheral is not enough.
Nvidia most certainly does not need you to communicate their intent. They are perfectly capable of conveying their intent without your aid. And they convey it just fine... by keeping the phrase "Oculus Rift" out of their VR Ready definition, and by linking Customers to Oculus Ready machines:
I actually agree with Nvidia that buying an Oculus Ready machine is a smart move.
And you clearly didn't attend an English course since you still think that VR Ready means Oculus Ready. An English course could have cleared it up with the simple singing of the Alphabet.
Their English in that chat is far superior to yours. You are calling it broken because you don't agree with it. That's pretty sad. The only thing offensive is how low you will go to blind yourself to the truth.
Yet you present, as evidence, a Chat session where only the graphics card is being discussed as being VR Ready.
This is false. VR Ready doesnt mean nor guarantee anything.
Where did you get the phrase "VR compatible" from? We were talking about VR Ready. Is this your broken English at play?
That is a weak attempt at playing a semantics game in a discussion about technical specifications. I get that resetting a password works in any environment, so it counts as "multiplatform troubleshooting." But when it comes to Virtual Reality, not every machine can run every major PCVR headset simply because GeForce said it was "VR Ready." Configuration management is required. And when someone like the OP shows up who doesn't want to configure or manage, then a machine that has been preconfigured for a specific VR platform is a smart choice.
Your choices, unfortunately, are all bad choices. Luckily, not even Nvidia agrees with you.
11-28-2018 12:52 PM
Zenbane said:
OMAW3D said:I agree with what you say here, except it doesn't apply in this
situation. OP had a problem unknown in nature that could perhaps have
been fixed in 5 minutes with a little effort.
Incorrect. The problem was not entirely unknown. The OP had 5 or 6 threads on the same topic - as I already told you. It may have been unknown to you, but your lack of insight doesn't impact the rest of us who were paying attention. You keep trying to say that the OP's problem could have been fixed, but no, it couldn't have... because as you have been told repeatedly, the OP did not want to tinker with the machine. You still can't comprehend this. But we can repeat it until it finally sinks in. It may never sink in, so we'll just push the pages of this thread to the 100's if needed.
"VR Ready" machines are in possession of all of the hardware necessary to run VR peripherals, Oculus included.This is false. VR Ready doesnt mean nor guarantee anything.
Zenbane said:Equally, 'VR Ready' is a perfectly serviceable and comprehensible
English phrase to use when describing a system capable of running
multiple VR headsets.I get that resetting a password works in any environment, so it counts as "multiplatform troubleshooting."
11-28-2018 03:18 PM
OMAW3D said:I believe it may have been fixed, i guess we will never know now.
VR Ready <> Oculus Ready
If you want a Rift, follow Nvidia's instructions and buy an Oculus Ready machine:
It's a marketing term for Nvidia. And you fell for it, hard.
Resetting passwords does not require technical knowledge. And between both my education and experience with both business and tech, I probably have more technical knowledge than you plus all the password resetters you know.
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In all seriousness, you do argue in the same stubborn and narrow-minded manner as all password resetting support personnel I've ever come across. This experience debating with you is a run down memory lane. Although, I have met the rare support admin that is talented and knowledgeable But they aren't the type to blindly launch a crusade for something as naive as "VR Ready." You and them have nothing in common.
11-29-2018 02:53 AM
Zenbane said:Resetting passwords does not require technical knowledge. And between both my education and experience with both business and tech, I probably have more technical knowledge than you plus all the password resetters you know.
11-29-2018 06:14 AM
OMAW3D said:In my environment there is a high bar for first line staff and to become completely proficient in password resets can require a fair amount of technical knowledge.
lmao - I've worked in this field for nearly 20 years. And I've argued with password resetters aplenty; it's a great pastime. Exaggeration and narrow-mindedness are common traits. I believe it's a job requirement lol
You were the first person to start making personal namecalling with words like "fool" and "clowns." Besides, I'm not personally attacking you with the password resetter comment, I'm merely describing a common trait. Your argument style is very predictable from a password resetters mindset.
Making logical leaps is not a smart thing, especially when you leave your brain behind.
Oculus Ready is a real term, VR Ready is a term with no real substance. Even NVidia markets Oculus Ready:
Yes, and "VR Ready" is another one of those mindless and pointless terms.
When a machine has the exact same specification as an Oculus Ready machine, then that machine has become... Oculus Ready. However, VR Ready has nothing to do with any of it.
11-29-2018 06:43 AM
Zenbane said:but it seems you have no consideration or experience of multi site AD
administration, LAN / WAN replication, RODCs, Azure sync etclmao - I've worked in this field for nearly 20 years.
Zenbane said:Show me the substance, what is the key difference between an 'Oculus
Ready' machine and an alternate machine of the same specificationWhen a machine has the exact same specification as an Oculus Ready machine, then that machine has become... Oculus Ready. However, VR Ready has nothing to do with any of it.
11-29-2018 07:20 AM
OMAW3D said:
Zenbane said:but it seems you have no consideration or experience of multi site AD
administration, LAN / WAN replication, RODCs, Azure sync etclmao - I've worked in this field for nearly 20 years.
Then it seems we do have at least something in common, long service. Nearly 15 years my side and well accredited.
Ditto. I've worked simultaneous projects with healthcare, financial systems, inventory management, and even space tech. I also spend lots of time on a public stage with a microphone giving lectures.
Pot/Kettle. You've been waving your tiny e-Peen around for some time. I only decided to show you mine as a gentle reminder that this is a place for Big Boys 😉
I've been accusing you of that for some time now with the Password Resetter references. It's no surprise that you're parroting me.
And if you ever stop resetting passwords for a living, you might encounter some of it. You are not "Big World Ready" lol
All of your attempts will end up with you flopping quite terribly. Take whatever stance and adopt whatever strategy you like, none of it will work out in your favor.
Check the NVidia site for more details on this:
https://www.geforce.com/hardware/technology/vr/oculus-vr-ready-hardware
11-29-2018 08:01 AM
Zenbane saidYou probably work as an in house IT bod right?I fluctuate between functioning as a 3rd Party Provider and internal IT shop. However, I rarely get along with true internal IT personnel, which is why you and I won't be getting along very well. Password Resetters are stationary positions. I can already tell that your reference to being multinational and multiregional is in relation to the systems and devices themselves, not your actual talents; yet you will try to pass that off as some skillset you actually maintain. Very typical and overplayed.
Zenbane saidWHERE is the difference that sets an 'Oculus Ready' machine apart from a VR Ready one?Check the NVidia site for more details on this:
https://www.geforce.com/hardware/technology/vr/oculus-vr-ready-hardware
11-29-2018 08:09 AM
OMAW3D said:Nope. My 15 yrs has been served exclusively as a 3rd party provider.
Passwords are a big challenge for some, sure. It's good position to hand off to interns who are still learning. Tech newbs do well here; a great way to "learn to swim" by starting in the kiddie pool.
You don't understand what marketing entails. Yet another failure on your part that comes as no surprise. Marketing a real thing doesn't denote a hollow marketing ploy. The VR Ready label you continue to advocate for is the only marketing ploy. Which is why Nvidia properly addresses this with a factual reference to Oculus Ready Machines. I've already linked to discussions and articles from other end-users and experts all of whom recommend the Oculus Compatibility Tool to verify an Oculus Ready machine. You have convinced yourself that the entire world is wrong and you're the only one who "gets it." That's the narrow-mindedness that comes from being a password resetter. And you already eluded to where it all began: you've argued multiple times that resetting passwords is difficult. Your exaggerations and delusions have reached biblical proportions lol
11-29-2018 08:40 AM
Zenbane said:again citing marketing material to counter my argument that 'Oculus Ready' is a hollow marketing ployYou don't understand what marketing entails. Yet another failure on your part that comes as no surprise. Marketing a real thing doesn't denote a hollow marketing ploy. The VR Ready label you continue to advocate for is the only marketing ploy. Which is why Nvidia properly addresses this with a factual reference to Oculus Ready Machines. I've already linked to discussions and articles from other end-users and experts all of whom recommend the Oculus Compatibility Tool to verify an Oculus Ready machine. You have convinced yourself that the entire world is wrong and you're the only one who "gets it." That's the narrow-mindedness that comes from being a password resetter. And you already eluded to where it all began: you've argued multiple times that resetting passwords is difficult. Your exaggerations and delusions have reached biblical proportions lol