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Will apple/msft destroy Facebook Augmented Reality plans?

AtariVR
Level 4
https://techcrunch.com/2017/06/13/augmented-reality-platform-wars/ ; I am very curious what the shipping issue was for the oculus originally?  I was told it was a hardware vendor, maybe the USB wireless xbox360 issue?  Could MSFT have sabotaged oculus to delay and hurt them?  For their own vr/ar store ambitions?  Like it seems apple is going to try and harm facebook AR hopes?  Is it wise to put your company and brand on top of anothers hardware, or OS, or store?  In this age of ruthless competition, perhaps owning your own mine to harvest the elements from, your own silicon manufacturing plant for your own hardware, etc is the best course of action.  Depending on all these third parties to help grow your business may just enable them to steal all your best ideas/tech and sell as their own?
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snowdog
Level 16
The shipping and supply issues were down to the COO at the time, Laird Malamed, being shite at his job. No conspiracy there at all. Once Hans Hartmann was poached from Fitbit and started doing his job properly those problems were solved within a matter of 5 or 6 weeks.

Hartmann is also the reason why Oculus were able to cut the price of the Rift and Touch controllers by $100 each and still break even on each unit of hardware sold. The man knows his proverbial onions, we'll probably see another price cut before Christmas or early next year too for both by around another $50-100.

Facebook aren't in this to make a quick buck, they're in this for the long haul and won't release an AR headset until it's possible to do so without a shite FOV. And by that time (probably another few years) the headset in question will have both AR and VR capability.

Unlike Microsoft, who tend to release products before they're ready, Facebook and Oculus will release an AR headset that works great and won't need fake demonstrations on stage at big gaming events.
"This you have to understand. There's only one way to hurt a man who's lost everything. Give him back something broken."

Thomas Covenant, Unbeliever

Zenbane
Level 16
Apple and Microsoft are simply reminding Facebook that they do not have a monopoly on the industry. Plus I think it is less about competition and more about sending a global message that a new technological era has begun, where all big players are involved.

AtariVR
Level 4

snowdog said:

The shipping and supply issues were down to the COO at the time, Laird Malamed, being shite at his job. No conspiracy there at all. Once Hans Hartmann was poached from Fitbit and started doing his job properly those problems were solved within a matter of 5 or 6 weeks.

I just read this about Laird, how can he effectively do his job when the CEO just lied to him constantly?  If my CEO lied to me about such an important issue, I would lose all trust in him, and it would seriously affect my job performance as I no longer had faith in the organization.  I think you make a great point, putting Hans in fixed a lot of issues, now if we can just get someone in to replace Iribe and fire him and all his bad karma from the company I think it will give a new LIFE BLOOD to the organization and the people working there.

https://www.reddit.com/r/Vive/comments/6iliw5/facebook_back_in_court_begs_judge_not_to_halt/djagd6b/

The complaint also newly accuses Iribe of hiding any proof of a nondisclosure agreement between Oculus and ZeniMax not only from potential outside investors but even from major Oculus staffers. One of those people, Chief Operating Officer Laird Malamed, is named as "the Oculus officer for providing Oculus's nondisclosure agreements, contracts, and other legal documents to potential investors conducting due diligence on Oculus." The complaint claims that Malamed did not learn about this crucial NDA, which governed the access Oculus had to proprietary ZeniMax technologies, until the original lawsuit had been filed in 2014.

elboffor
Level 12

AtariVR said:

xbox360


*XboxOne

If your going to be a good theorist about stuff dude, dont make such a glaring error.
How can you expect anyone to join your cult and style their foil hats to match yours when such glaring inaccuracies are present?
Or was it deliberate to test their fate?
This is my forum signature.
There are many others like it, but this is mine.

AtariVR
Level 4

elboffor said:
Or was it deliberate to test their fate?

I could pretend to be "testing" the attention spans of the readers, but that would be unethical.  Thank you for pointing out the errors, we all get by with a little help from our friends.  Its very hot in the seattle area today, I am not used to such heat, and my various medicines along with my other health conditions do cause errors.  We are stronger together. I don't want any cults, that happened with palmer, carmack, etc and evil was allowed to propogate.  I am for less concentration of power, not more.  Less cults and hero worship, more individual freedom and mutual respect.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2lYudapfHlw

snowdog
Level 16
Mamaled couldn't effectively do his job because he wasn't qualified to do that job in the first place. He was, like the majority of senior appointed staff in the beginning, an engineer that was out of his depth to paraphrase (I think?) either Luckey or Iribe. Early on in the game the Oculus senior management were out of their depth with a lot of the ins and outs of running a company that size. You wouldn't have had those supply issues if someone more qualified to do the job was doing the job at the start of things...and you were talking about the component shortage and nothing to do with NDAs in your opening post.
"This you have to understand. There's only one way to hurt a man who's lost everything. Give him back something broken."

Thomas Covenant, Unbeliever

cybernettr
Level 9
 Oculus could put a camera on their headset in a future version. That way, you could see your room environment in AR without having to hold your device in front of your face the whole time.  Of course, going out of your home would be a little more difficult, but that's what the Gear VR is for. 

Morgrum
Level 11
I have a leap in the front so a camera would be useless for me
WAAAGH!