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Herolord
Level 4
"Pokey" wrote:
Theriftlist lists 3D Porn Director:

http://theriftlist.com/Home/Game?name=Porn%20Director%203D

The problem with that is that most people don't want to have relations with a texture. They would have to use 3d scans as displayed in a previous thread.
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nihilian
Level 2
"Herolord" wrote:
The fact that in some country some where a woman can get exploited has no relevance to the porn genre at all. It is pretty silly to argue that because something bad happens somewhere, the medium should be banished altogether. Lets ban parks because in some shit country somewhere, a bad thing happened at a park. The vast majority of porn stars and prostitutes are there voluntarily due to the simple fact that people don't have to use force to get women to be prostitutes or porn stars since millions of them have done so for the cash benefits. It's similar to why there isn't an active draft for servicemen in America, because they don't need a draft since there are enough who volunteer for the cash benefits.


Who are you addressing? I don't see anyone suggesting we ban porn anywhere...

AnotherAtreyu
Level 4
Oh for goodness sakes Herolord, this again?
I understand that you obviously have a lot to say but can't you just let the VR Porn thread be the VR Porn thread and not turn it into some big debate? I'd rather like to keep this thread from being locked like the other one.
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MrGeddings
Level 3
i dont see a problem with it. Honestly. a few companies have said something about making something for the Rift the first one the one that got annouced in the news i think is not going to happen. The guy posted on MTBS that his funding got cut.t the info email to the website doesnt work and he has not replied to either my MTBS message or the facebook message so.......sadly doubt that will see the light of day. But i think it would be a cool concept. not sure about 3d porn "games" lets face it most of them are sub par. but as given an example in one of the other posts 360 video is possible. could be possible to make a 360 video that you can have head tracking with. even if it was a fixed position it still might be pretty cool. We shall see. Honestly for me seeing it work with second life would be pretty cool thats about as "advanced" of a "sex game" you'r gonna get . so......we'll see. I hope to see some options that are at least half way decent 😉

jwilkins
Level 2
I'm not sure who brought up exploitation. I think VR porn will reveal that most people aren't really truly concerned about people being exploited, but they just want to police other people's thoughts.

If VR sex is some kind of technologically mediated experience between consenting adults then anybody concerned about exploitation should welcome it. Even in the unlikely even that a person is forced into being a "VR whore" (new fangled cam whore), who wouldn't see that as infinitely better than being kidnapped and trafficked across the world in order to be physically violated by strangers?

But that won't cause outrage as much as people indulging in fantasies with completely digital creations. In other threads we've talked about perceptual illusions, but there are some interesting work based on how our brains are wired which implies to me that there is an erotic gold mine of novel experiences just waiting in VR:

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"JohnRambo" wrote:
Do you guys know what kind of camera technology would be required in order to film a porn star and then render it into a 3D environment? I need an answer to that question fast, as I have approached one porn star with the idea of filming her in 3D and her agent has replied to me and told me he would discuss it with her.

It would depend on the budget and quality required.
The lowest end of the scale would be a kinect using the kinectfusion app (which generates detailed polygon models of 3d space) to build a 3d model. I was able to make an ok 3d model of my head (the hair went strange, but the face was ok) just by holding the kinect at arm's length and orbiting it around, then applied a photo texture to it in Maya. At the very least it would give a base model for an artist to clean up in zbrush or other modelling tool.

Then rig it and do some motion capture to control the model (could use the kinect again, but will require manual animation cleaning up too).

Edit: unless you mean just recording in 3d using stereo cameras then compositing into a 3d scene, that would be a lot easier. Either get two good cameras or a single camera with a 3d lens splitter.
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IsoMacintosh
Level 3
i have played some japanese porn games and noticed one part that needs improvent. the cumshots.
Do modern computers have enough power to do the cumshots using realistic fluid simulation? i have not seen anyone do it.
also can you even do simulated fluids in udk?
if someone has examples of simulating small amounts of fluids, id be interested.

AnotherAtreyu
Level 4
"IsoMacintosh" wrote:
i have played some japanese porn games and noticed one part that needs improvent. the cumshots.
Do modern computers have enough power to do the cumshots using realistic fluid simulation? i have not seen anyone do it.
also can you even do simulated fluids in udk?
if someone has examples of simulating small amounts of fluids, id be interested.


Do you think you could try to be a little less 'juvenile' in your terms? Something a little more mature such as 'money shot' instead of your choice words would go a long ways in keeping the discussion from degrading into something offensive to those other people browsing these pages.
Their are many different people reading these forums and I would think we would want to keep the appeal as open as possible if we would like to continue such topics here, rather than be banished to speak about them in some dark corner of the internet.
Thanks.

Now as for the realistic fluid simulation matter. I don't think it is an issue of whether or not it could be done, but whether or not it would be worth the developers investment to incorporate such a thing when I think that most people would not really care one way or another.
I'm sure it would have it's place though and I could be wrong, but that would be my best guess anyhow.
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IsoMacintosh
Level 3
"HappyHimitsu" wrote:
Do you think you could try to be a little less 'juvenile' in your terms? Something a little more mature such as 'money shot' instead of your choice words would go a long ways in keeping the discussion from degrading into something offensive to those other people browsing these pages.
Their are many different people reading these forums and I would think we would want to keep the appeal as open as possible if we would like to continue such topics here, rather than be banished to speak about them in some dark corner of the internet.
Thanks.

Well people should not get offended from such small things. but next time i will use some different term.

nihilian
Level 2
"JohnRambo" wrote:
Do you guys know what kind of camera technology would be required in order to film a porn star and then render it into a 3D environment? I need an answer to that question fast, as I have approached one porn star with the idea of filming her in 3D and her agent has replied to me and told me he would discuss it with her.


The cheapest way to do stereo 3d filming is just to get 2 cameras, can be any kind, dSLR works fine,
and mount them to a home-made rail fixture.

http://www.popularmechanics.com/technology/how-to/tips/how-to-make-a-3d-camera
http://filmmakeriq.com/2009/06/diy-3d-with-two-cameras-and-after-effects/

jwilkins
Level 2
The problem with language seems to be that terms either have a very clinical sound or a juvenile sound. Occasionally you have a euphemism that doesn't sound like either, but I think that is the exception. People should be able to write how they want without being corrected since it is hard enough already. If you have fragile sensibilities I'm not sure why you would be in a thread that is discussing adult games.

As for fluid simulation of ejaculate (clinical term, yay!, but what follows is a discussion of physically based modeling): Semen varies in viscosity, but is generally very thick and sticky. Modeling it like the gels in Portal 2 or something is going to look rather ridiculous. I'm not aware of any real time fluid algorithms that could actually handle it.

Take something like the following video (thin sheet fluid rendering), but add stickiness, and increase the viscosity AND do it in real time.




Or, if you really don't care that much, slap a "cum shader" on some metablobs.


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